I am sorry, how bad is the NTR bait that people are talking about? I see that it will not be added, but I am curious as to how bad it actually is. Anyone mind explaining
Not at all tbh. I feel it was a mega overreaction. Play the game yourself but honestly, I found the so-called "NTR bait" to not be NTR at all. The scene itself was also both sexy...and hilarious
honestly i don't see any really big flaws like people are trying here, good work, keep up. its kinda ridiculous plot at times but that's really not an issue, doesn't ruin much if any fun
stands for netorare, which translates to "cheating" in Japanese. While the term is similar to cuckold ("husband of an adulterous wife") the couples involved here are not in a marital affair. In the story, the two girls cheat on their boyfriends by doing things with each other. So if we see males who are NOT the MC with the heroines, it is NTR. Our game doesn't have NTR and never will, but recent episode has fans concerns that it will. We've released a statement explaining everything.
It either is or is not NTR. In this case it isn't. How it "feels" doesn't matter. Point is that it isn't NTR, which those whining need to realize. Sheesh.
Sorry this is a bit of a rant but I'm seeing you say one thing, and then the game has pretty much the opposite.
I was loving this right up until some of chapter 3 and the beginning of chapter 4, first of all, Mouse is manipulating the situations to be way too unreal and ridiculous and the MC is not mad enough about it.
And then in chapter 4 MC eats out Beth but you let her think it's another guy, which is borderline NTR because this behavior would only encourage her to choose other guys over MC. And if this was an NTR game that would be fine, but I read through the comments and you keep reaffirming that this game will not have NTR, so I went in expecting nothing of the sort, but then MC gets a call from a guy that was literally about to have sex with her, she was naked in front of him and was about to have sex with him. Like do you want to add NTR or not? If not then you probably shouldn't make plot points where NTR was just barely avoided, for me and many others who don't enjoy NTR, situations like these are practically right alongside NTR, having a character willing to be in these situations is the same as having NTR because then we are given the idea that the character would be fine with it even if it doesn't actually happen in the game. Even when she wakes up and (through another absolutely ridiculous scenario which surprisingly Mouse had nothing to do with) MC's dick is in her her mouth, she thinks "Fuck... why couldn't this have happened last night with the other guy?" (word for word)
And then you have the situation with Jen at the mall a little later, gets talked into being a stripper (I shouldn't even have to go into why this is NTR bait) and somehow Amy is magically there to blackmail her? Amy isn't just a bratty character, her character is that of just an awful person, she's rude, manipulative, and doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself and apparently they just hope that the regular punishments work eventually, even though she has only gotten worse. AND THEN JEN PROCEEDS TO BE A STRIPPER.
Look, I'm fine the the ridiculous scenarios, I even kind of like the way you are incorporating them into the story, I just wish the MC wasn't such a fucking pushover, but you tell us there will be no NTR, yet you get as close as possible to NTR without it technically crossing the line, it feels like it's written by someone who likes NTR but refuses to admit to themselves that they do, and if you're making that kind of game, then go for it, just don't tell people that you aren't.
We've just released an announcement to clarify everything. No, we won't have any NTR. And no, we don't like NTR either. We apologize for the misunderstanding...
I do want to apologize for the ending of my initial comment where I insinuate that you like NTR but refuse to admit it, that was out of line.
Now I have read your announcement, and the fact that you are being up front with all this and actually addressing it, is very good and shows that you truly care about this game and that you care how others view this game, and I respect that. And because of the announcement where you double down that there will be no NTR, I for one will be waiting for episode 5 and will check it out and that will likely decide if I continue to follow this game or not.
I will say that many people who dislike NTR don't even like the thought of other men seeing their girl (or girls in this games case) naked or even about to have sex with them. They often view it as the same thing, except of course like accidental nudity or situations where it is unavoidable, but becoming a stripper is certainly avoidable. How the MC reacts to Jen becoming a stripper will be a big deciding factor in whether I (and I assume others like me who have decided to stick with it despite what happened in chapter 4) will continue to follow this game.
With all that being said I wish you the best and, albeit reluctantly, will look forward to chapter 5.
U were WAY too harsh, bruh. I'm a patreon, and they're super transparent and open. Hell, they're just a team of 2. And I honestly think one of the two devs, if not both, is a woman lol.
Beth is trying to meet someone and like any sane godmother, she'd not try her damn godson before trying other men. So we're seeing her try others, only to get stood up/run into scum before beginning to see MC in that way. And...she's only human. Like guys, women got needs. Her wishing it was another guy (they cut that out in the patch btw) is pretty realistic cuz that's her godson. She's trying to resist.
I think the reason the MC wasn't angry at Mouse as much...is cuz he got a blowjob from it AND found out Melanie has feelings for him.
Strippers are not hookers btw. They show...but no touch. Amy being there was coincidental as she ended up skipping classes (And I suspect Mouse made sure of that as her character is all about doing whatever she wants now that MC is fully aware of the simulation). Amy still feels like a brat more than evil to me. Plus I do notice her shit leads to consequences that bite her in the ass.
Jen became a stripper to make $ out of guilt. Beth works hard, Jen has student loans, and Jen is still not getting job offers. She wants to contribute and hates how Beth is the only provider. She's 25, and expects more from herself. So some easy $ feels like the right thing to do, plus she gets to wear a mask. She's doing something she hates for the sake of others.
as for MC, I mean...in his situation I don't see myself getting as mad cuz I'm told I get to bang chicks and they'll make it easier. Mouse would annoy me...but wtf can I even do? I'm a dead guy with his soul in a simulation. No escape. Like the pep talk Melanie gave MC...this is the reality ya got in the end.
You do bring up a lot of good points that I honestly didn't consider, I still disagree with you on Amy, I have yet to see her show regard for anyone but herself and one time with Melanie that came off as fake to me, but that's the way I saw it.
I also still disagree with on the MC not getting mad, the MC does still have power in this situation, as at this point Mouse and Angel depend on his cooperation for their own wellbeing, but Mouse is just doing whatever the hell she wants.
Also at no point did I say that strippers were hookers, I'm well aware of the separation between the two. I'm more implying that if the MC is okay with random men looking at her nude body, then this game isn't for me, which is why I said that the MC's reaction in chapter 5 is a big deciding factor in whether I continue to follow this game or not.
I do also agree that I was pretty harsh and apologize for that but I do stand by some of the points I made, such as the MC not having much backbone, if you want to just be a pushover because you get to have sex with hot girls, then that's your decision, but it ain't for me, so if that's how the whole game is going to be I would like to know so I don't continue to follow it while expecting something else.
I'm not saying the game is bad, I did not mean for it to come off that way and I'm sorry if it did. Also while you may be a patron, I am not, so you have to understand that you have seen much more of that transparency and openness than I have, I am only speaking about what I have seen and my take on it.
I'm a Patreon and apparently...they announced they plan to retcon the entire opening scene of Episode 4. The scene will be the same renders and such, but context and everything will change. Bet they plan to announce it here soon too
I'm not sure if this questions counts as FEEDBACK but in EP2 i think i found a hidden easter egg placed in plan sight or not BUT see screen cap below and let me know if it is what i think it could be lol, PMSL !!!
The models are great especially Jennifer. The lighting is good and it brings out the mood. The writing is phenomenal. It's witty with a splash of punk and attitude. I love it so far. I'm curious where the story would go.... I hope the dev keeps scheduled updates....
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I am sorry, how bad is the NTR bait that people are talking about? I see that it will not be added, but I am curious as to how bad it actually is. Anyone mind explaining
Not at all tbh. I feel it was a mega overreaction. Play the game yourself but honestly, I found the so-called "NTR bait" to not be NTR at all. The scene itself was also both sexy...and hilarious
Ohh ok, Ill give it a try lager then. Thank you🙏
will there be a walkthrough for this game?
honestly i don't see any really big flaws like people are trying here, good work, keep up. its kinda ridiculous plot at times but that's really not an issue, doesn't ruin much if any fun
and what does NTR mean anyone do specify please lol
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stands for netorare, which translates to "cheating" in Japanese. While the term is similar to cuckold ("husband of an adulterous wife") the couples involved here are not in a marital affair. In the story, the two girls cheat on their boyfriends by doing things with each other.
So if we see males who are NOT the MC with the heroines, it is NTR. Our game doesn't have NTR and never will, but recent episode has fans concerns that it will. We've released a statement explaining everything.
It either is or is not NTR. In this case it isn't. How it "feels" doesn't matter. Point is that it isn't NTR, which those whining need to realize. Sheesh.
I'm looking forward to Ep5
Is this a mega download?
Sorry this is a bit of a rant but I'm seeing you say one thing, and then the game has pretty much the opposite.
I was loving this right up until some of chapter 3 and the beginning of chapter 4, first of all, Mouse is manipulating the situations to be way too unreal and ridiculous and the MC is not mad enough about it.
And then in chapter 4 MC eats out Beth but you let her think it's another guy, which is borderline NTR because this behavior would only encourage her to choose other guys over MC. And if this was an NTR game that would be fine, but I read through the comments and you keep reaffirming that this game will not have NTR, so I went in expecting nothing of the sort, but then MC gets a call from a guy that was literally about to have sex with her, she was naked in front of him and was about to have sex with him. Like do you want to add NTR or not? If not then you probably shouldn't make plot points where NTR was just barely avoided, for me and many others who don't enjoy NTR, situations like these are practically right alongside NTR, having a character willing to be in these situations is the same as having NTR because then we are given the idea that the character would be fine with it even if it doesn't actually happen in the game. Even when she wakes up and (through another absolutely ridiculous scenario which surprisingly Mouse had nothing to do with) MC's dick is in her her mouth, she thinks "Fuck... why couldn't this have happened last night with the other guy?" (word for word)
And then you have the situation with Jen at the mall a little later, gets talked into being a stripper (I shouldn't even have to go into why this is NTR bait) and somehow Amy is magically there to blackmail her? Amy isn't just a bratty character, her character is that of just an awful person, she's rude, manipulative, and doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself and apparently they just hope that the regular punishments work eventually, even though she has only gotten worse. AND THEN JEN PROCEEDS TO BE A STRIPPER.
Look, I'm fine the the ridiculous scenarios, I even kind of like the way you are incorporating them into the story, I just wish the MC wasn't such a fucking pushover, but you tell us there will be no NTR, yet you get as close as possible to NTR without it technically crossing the line, it feels like it's written by someone who likes NTR but refuses to admit to themselves that they do, and if you're making that kind of game, then go for it, just don't tell people that you aren't.
The borderline NTR pushed me away for sure
We've just released an announcement to clarify everything. No, we won't have any NTR. And no, we don't like NTR either. We apologize for the misunderstanding...
I do want to apologize for the ending of my initial comment where I insinuate that you like NTR but refuse to admit it, that was out of line.
Now I have read your announcement, and the fact that you are being up front with all this and actually addressing it, is very good and shows that you truly care about this game and that you care how others view this game, and I respect that. And because of the announcement where you double down that there will be no NTR, I for one will be waiting for episode 5 and will check it out and that will likely decide if I continue to follow this game or not.
I will say that many people who dislike NTR don't even like the thought of other men seeing their girl (or girls in this games case) naked or even about to have sex with them. They often view it as the same thing, except of course like accidental nudity or situations where it is unavoidable, but becoming a stripper is certainly avoidable. How the MC reacts to Jen becoming a stripper will be a big deciding factor in whether I (and I assume others like me who have decided to stick with it despite what happened in chapter 4) will continue to follow this game.
With all that being said I wish you the best and, albeit reluctantly, will look forward to chapter 5.
U were WAY too harsh, bruh. I'm a patreon, and they're super transparent and open. Hell, they're just a team of 2. And I honestly think one of the two devs, if not both, is a woman lol.
Beth is trying to meet someone and like any sane godmother, she'd not try her damn godson before trying other men. So we're seeing her try others, only to get stood up/run into scum before beginning to see MC in that way. And...she's only human. Like guys, women got needs. Her wishing it was another guy (they cut that out in the patch btw) is pretty realistic cuz that's her godson. She's trying to resist.
I think the reason the MC wasn't angry at Mouse as much...is cuz he got a blowjob from it AND found out Melanie has feelings for him.
Strippers are not hookers btw. They show...but no touch. Amy being there was coincidental as she ended up skipping classes (And I suspect Mouse made sure of that as her character is all about doing whatever she wants now that MC is fully aware of the simulation). Amy still feels like a brat more than evil to me. Plus I do notice her shit leads to consequences that bite her in the ass.
Jen became a stripper to make $ out of guilt. Beth works hard, Jen has student loans, and Jen is still not getting job offers. She wants to contribute and hates how Beth is the only provider. She's 25, and expects more from herself. So some easy $ feels like the right thing to do, plus she gets to wear a mask. She's doing something she hates for the sake of others.
as for MC, I mean...in his situation I don't see myself getting as mad cuz I'm told I get to bang chicks and they'll make it easier. Mouse would annoy me...but wtf can I even do? I'm a dead guy with his soul in a simulation. No escape. Like the pep talk Melanie gave MC...this is the reality ya got in the end.
You do bring up a lot of good points that I honestly didn't consider, I still disagree with you on Amy, I have yet to see her show regard for anyone but herself and one time with Melanie that came off as fake to me, but that's the way I saw it.
I also still disagree with on the MC not getting mad, the MC does still have power in this situation, as at this point Mouse and Angel depend on his cooperation for their own wellbeing, but Mouse is just doing whatever the hell she wants.
Also at no point did I say that strippers were hookers, I'm well aware of the separation between the two. I'm more implying that if the MC is okay with random men looking at her nude body, then this game isn't for me, which is why I said that the MC's reaction in chapter 5 is a big deciding factor in whether I continue to follow this game or not.
I do also agree that I was pretty harsh and apologize for that but I do stand by some of the points I made, such as the MC not having much backbone, if you want to just be a pushover because you get to have sex with hot girls, then that's your decision, but it ain't for me, so if that's how the whole game is going to be I would like to know so I don't continue to follow it while expecting something else.
I'm not saying the game is bad, I did not mean for it to come off that way and I'm sorry if it did. Also while you may be a patron, I am not, so you have to understand that you have seen much more of that transparency and openness than I have, I am only speaking about what I have seen and my take on it.
I'm a Patreon and apparently...they announced they plan to retcon the entire opening scene of Episode 4. The scene will be the same renders and such, but context and everything will change.
Bet they plan to announce it here soon too
Hi dev first of all your game is great and what are the fetishes we can see in future updates like netori or optional impregnation etc
NTR is never gonna be in the game. We will not have optional pregnancy.
ok keep it up buddy
Trying our best...some of the comments tho really stung. :(
But we r pushing forward.
just keep doing what you do
This is going to be have harem right? With the ntr bait in this game, what is your target audience?
No NTR. Ever. Period. Sorry if it came off that we were gonna do that, but we r not.
Nice job dev
Thank you! :)
Episode 5 is already in progress and we aim to have even more tasteful scenes.
Please upload this game to a website that is compatible with the itch.io launcher.
Interesting dan't see the plot coming !!!
P.S. i am loving EP 1, 2 so far and as soon as i finish 2 going right into E.P. 3!!!
Do let us know what you think of Episode 3! Do leave us a rating if you love what you're seeing!
I'm not sure if this questions counts as FEEDBACK but in EP2 i think i found a hidden easter egg placed in plan sight or not BUT see screen cap below and let me know if it is what i think it could be lol, PMSL !!!
No idea what you're talking about :)
Like what you’re done. Keep it up 👍🏻
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I see the downloads are called Ep 2, Do I need to find Ep 1 somewhere or are they in the same download?
same
nope. All together
The models are great especially Jennifer. The lighting is good and it brings out the mood. The writing is phenomenal. It's witty with a splash of punk and attitude. I love it so far. I'm curious where the story would go.... I hope the dev keeps scheduled updates....